RICHARD KUKLINSKI WAS NOT A MOB CONTRACT KILLER
Richard Interviewby Jeff Canarsie
If your anything like me and you came across "Confessions of the Iceman", on HBO a few years back you were probably transfixed by the hulking, smirking, sometimes funny serial killer Richard Kuklinski. Maybe funny isn't the best way to describe Richard, but between us I found some of his anecdotes quite hilarious. It wasn't necessarily what he did that I found amusing, more so it was the audacity of how he described himself and his actions. It takes a real sick individual to do what he did.
Richard's claims, "100 murders, maybe more," took me by surprise when you consider that the Roy Demeo crew had at least 100 murders if not more under there reign. They were known in mob circles as the rival to Murder, Inc. Slowly as you sift through the HBO documentary you find that Richard boasts of mafia contracts and killings, even if he couldn't prove it, and the F.B.I. was on record saying it was a complete "fabrication to enhance his ego and story." That's a large part of many serial killers backgrounds. They inflate and invent because there mentality is such that they have to feel better than everyone else, and they have to elevate themselves to be greater then those before them, We have seen this before with certain serial killers. Then again, sometimes the number a serial killer gives is less than what actually happened. In this case however, Richard was convicted of six murders, not 100.
So who was Richard Kuklinski?
Born April 11, 1935 in Jersey City, New Jersey, had an extreme childhood. His father was an abusive alcoholic who had a penchant for beating Richard. If you follow the path of most serial killers you will find at least two parts to the three part triad of the making of a serial killer. In laymen's terms, all serial killers have three common features which connect them to there behaviors.
A. Some form of abuse, albeit it sexual, mental, or physical- Which leads to lack of empathy, aggression, and a form of anti-authority complex's.
B. All harmed animals as youth. Either torture, killing, or maiming.
C. All are bed wetters.
In the case of Richard Kuklinski, he had all three of these features. He was physically abused by both his mother and father, mentally abused by both parents as well. He harmed cats as a youth, putting one into an incinerator, and tying two cats together by there tails and watching them fight to the death. In another instance of abuse he ties a dog to the back of a truck and watched the truck drag the dog down the street. This was just the beginning of Richard's ascent into oblivion.
Richard's first murder took place when he was 15 years old. He had been previously bullied repeatedly in his neighborhood, and had finally had enough. After an incident with a bully Richard went into his room, grabbed a clothes hanging rod from his closet and beat the bully to death. In the HBO documentary when asked by renowned forensic psychologist Park Dietz about his feelings on the murder, a wide grin gripped his face and he said "I felt nothing. I was surprised that I felt nothing."
That was just the first murder Richard committed, there would be more. According to Philip Carlo's book "Richard's ability to hurt people brought him to the attention of the Decavalcante Crime Family." As much as I respect the author, none of those claims could be proven. What is true, is that Kuklinski was a pool hustler and minor drug dealer, and played on the fringes of crime. To take that and spin it into his "inner relationships with mobsters," is a real stretch. The truth is, Richard Kuklinski was a serial killer hell bent on control and making others suffer because of his shitty childhood. He can spin it whatever way he wants, but the truth is, he was a SERIAL KILLER.
In 1954, Kuklinski began hunting in Hells Kitchen. He began killing. Sometimes it was over "someone bumped into me, someone slighted me, someone looked at me sideways." No mention of money, rather a personal issue.
ROY DEMEO/THE GAMBINO'S TOTAL NONSENSE
First of all, the movie THE ICEMEN is as full of holes as it gets. Nothing personal with actor Michael Shannon, because I thought he was terrific, but the movie is total nonsense. The whole movie centered around Richard operating an illegal porn film business, and somehow Roy Demeo finds out, and wants to cash in on Richard's business. Why did Richard never mention this to the F.B.I. or on his documentary? Well, it was never mentioned because it never happened. What is true, is that he did work in a film lab, and he did distribute porn films. However what isn't true, is the fabrication of his "friendship with Demeo."
Roy Demeo, Anthony Senter, Chris Rosenberg, Joey Testa, Dominick Montiglio and others didn't need any help from Richard Kuklinski. The idea the Roy would bring in someone of Polish descent to help them remove problems is laughable at best.
1. Albert Demeo(son of Roy Demeo) never mentions Richard Kuklinski in his book.
2. Paul Castellano on tapes never mentions Richard Kuklinski(yet mentions the Westies)
3. Salvatore Gravano never once mentions Kuklinski in his testimony
4. Dominick Montiglio never mentions Kuklinski
5. Zero F.B.I. wiretaps with Kuklinski, or photos
6. No mention of Kuklisnki by the F.B.I. memos
Those six facts alone, totally make Philip Carlo's book a farce. He said he "substantiated everything," is a bold faced lie. He essentially was able to prove that Kuklinski was a killer, but couldn't prove anything else. he essentially pulled a George Anastasia and John Alite. He took the killers words as fact instead of finding the proof.
If Richard Kuklinski was a hard core mafia hitman, you can bet your ass Roy Demeo would have killed him. Especially when the Westies shit got out of hand and Roy began dispatching everyone. You can also bet that Anthony Senter and Joey Testa would have killed Kuklinski, especially considering Paul Castellano was under indictment for the mafia commission case, and wanted all loose parts to disappear.
Kuklinski would have to have intimate details of high profile mob assassinations, and all he was was the how, not the whole, why or where. So you gave to ask yourself, how did this guy do all that and stay off the radar? The truth is, none of it ever happened.
What Kuklinski did, was try to put himself with Salvatore Gravano. How Sammy used him for a hit on a cop(Peter Calabro). The F.B.I. foamed at the mouth for this information, and investigated the murder to the ends of the earth. The F.B.I. knew if they could pin a cop murder on Gravano he was gone forever. The F.B.I. couldn't and wouldn't bring charges because no such event ever occurred. Kuklinski made it up to enhance his ego and story, much as he did when he said he killed Jimmy Hoffa. Richard would go on to spin more long tales with no facts, hoping the press would bite. He would even go so far as to tell his own family that "they were trying to kill him in prison, by poison." All it was, was a loose way of trying to say Gravano was trying to have him killed in prison to stifle his big mouth. The truth is, I wouldn't doubt that Sammy wanted him dead, but it would have been more because this liar was going to pin something on him, he didn't do.
Gravano, is a liar, this much is known. However, I don't believe Gravano had anything to do with Kuklinski, and I also believe they never met. You have to ask yourself two questions. Why would Roy Demeo(whose crew had over 100 murders) would need such a hulking maniac to take out anyone? Why would Gravano(who had a minimum of 19 murders) need Kuklinski? They wouldn't. The mob dispatches it's own, with it's own. In the rare case that a hit has to go down and the family doesn't want to be attached, they go outside the family, to another family. It would be rare for the mob to go to outside help. Why pay an exorbitant sum of money, when your underlings could be told to do it? None of it makes sense.
Another question, of the six he confessed to, not a single one had ANY attachment to the mafia, underworld or anything else. Not a single murder he committed was a contract, but more for personal satisfaction, and personal gain. He sold drugs, robbed and murdered at will. The idea that he had his own little crew, and made a ton of money, is completely false. He made good money with his porn films, and drugs, but perhaps the biggest way he made money was deals he would make selling prescription drugs to pharmacists, collecting the cash and killing them in return without payment of goods. He was a schlub, and not anybody of circumstance.
So was is six or seven or 200 murders? I personally believe it was more than he acknowledged, and I wouldn't doubt he didn't kill for profit, but I don't believe it was with the Mafia. Most if not all but perhaps a handful were for pure joy and satisfaction. Think about it for one second, he could have unleashed hell on everyone when he went to trial, gotten himself a great deal, relocated, but he didn't. He in fact, admitted what he did, and never mentioned the MAFIA. Not once, until midway through his admission, he tried to play it that way and the detectives and F.B.I. didn't buy it for a second, and never did.
Why Philip Carlo allowed himself to be used is beyond me. Why he didn't publish facts is beyond me. It's his book of "stretches," and that's okay by me, the the truth is, Kuklinski, despite his stories is a SERIAL KILLER and not a mob hitman. Never was, never will be, no matter how distorted the reality gets. Kuklinski will go down in history as a disturbed, sociopath, nothing more, nothing less.
ICEMAN INTERVIEW
If your anything like me and you came across "Confessions of the Iceman", on HBO a few years back you were probably transfixed by the hulking, smirking, sometimes funny serial killer Richard Kuklinski. Maybe funny isn't the best way to describe Richard, but between us I found some of his anecdotes quite hilarious. It wasn't necessarily what he did that I found amusing, more so it was the audacity of how he described himself and his actions. It takes a real sick individual to do what he did.Richard's claims, "100 murders, maybe more," took me by surprise when you consider that the Roy Demeo crew had at least 100 murders if not more under there reign. They were known in mob circles as the rival to Murder, Inc. Slowly as you sift through the HBO documentary you find that Richard boasts of mafia contracts and killings, even if he couldn't prove it, and the F.B.I. was on record saying it was a complete "fabrication to enhance his ego and story." That's a large part of many serial killers backgrounds. They inflate and invent because there mentality is such that they have to feel better than everyone else, and they have to elevate themselves to be greater then those before them, We have seen this before with certain serial killers. Then again, sometimes the number a serial killer gives is less than what actually happened. In this case however, Richard was convicted of six murders, not 100.
So who was Richard Kuklinski?
Born April 11, 1935 in Jersey City, New Jersey, had an extreme childhood. His father was an abusive alcoholic who had a penchant for beating Richard. If you follow the path of most serial killers you will find at least two parts to the three part triad of the making of a serial killer. In laymen's terms, all serial killers have three common features which connect them to there behaviors.
A. Some form of abuse, albeit it sexual, mental, or physical- Which leads to lack of empathy, aggression, and a form of anti-authority complex's.
B. All harmed animals as youth. Either torture, killing, or maiming.
C. All are bed wetters.
In the case of Richard Kuklinski, he had all three of these features. He was physically abused by both his mother and father, mentally abused by both parents as well. He harmed cats as a youth, putting one into an incinerator, and tying two cats together by there tails and watching them fight to the death. In another instance of abuse he ties a dog to the back of a truck and watched the truck drag the dog down the street. This was just the beginning of Richard's ascent into oblivion.
Richard's first murder took place when he was 15 years old. He had been previously bullied repeatedly in his neighborhood, and had finally had enough. After an incident with a bully Richard went into his room, grabbed a clothes hanging rod from his closet and beat the bully to death. In the HBO documentary when asked by renowned forensic psychologist Park Dietz about his feelings on the murder, a wide grin gripped his face and he said "I felt nothing. I was surprised that I felt nothing."
That was just the first murder Richard committed, there would be more. According to Philip Carlo's book "Richard's ability to hurt people brought him to the attention of the Decavalcante Crime Family." As much as I respect the author, none of those claims could be proven. What is true, is that Kuklinski was a pool hustler and minor drug dealer, and played on the fringes of crime. To take that and spin it into his "inner relationships with mobsters," is a real stretch. The truth is, Richard Kuklinski was a serial killer hell bent on control and making others suffer because of his shitty childhood. He can spin it whatever way he wants, but the truth is, he was a SERIAL KILLER.
In 1954, Kuklinski began hunting in Hells Kitchen. He began killing. Sometimes it was over "someone bumped into me, someone slighted me, someone looked at me sideways." No mention of money, rather a personal issue.
ROY DEMEO/THE GAMBINO'S TOTAL NONSENSE
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| Roy DeMeo |
Roy Demeo, Anthony Senter, Chris Rosenberg, Joey Testa, Dominick Montiglio and others didn't need any help from Richard Kuklinski. The idea the Roy would bring in someone of Polish descent to help them remove problems is laughable at best.
1. Albert Demeo(son of Roy Demeo) never mentions Richard Kuklinski in his book.
2. Paul Castellano on tapes never mentions Richard Kuklinski(yet mentions the Westies)
3. Salvatore Gravano never once mentions Kuklinski in his testimony
4. Dominick Montiglio never mentions Kuklinski
5. Zero F.B.I. wiretaps with Kuklinski, or photos
6. No mention of Kuklisnki by the F.B.I. memos
Those six facts alone, totally make Philip Carlo's book a farce. He said he "substantiated everything," is a bold faced lie. He essentially was able to prove that Kuklinski was a killer, but couldn't prove anything else. he essentially pulled a George Anastasia and John Alite. He took the killers words as fact instead of finding the proof.If Richard Kuklinski was a hard core mafia hitman, you can bet your ass Roy Demeo would have killed him. Especially when the Westies shit got out of hand and Roy began dispatching everyone. You can also bet that Anthony Senter and Joey Testa would have killed Kuklinski, especially considering Paul Castellano was under indictment for the mafia commission case, and wanted all loose parts to disappear.
Kuklinski would have to have intimate details of high profile mob assassinations, and all he was was the how, not the whole, why or where. So you gave to ask yourself, how did this guy do all that and stay off the radar? The truth is, none of it ever happened.
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| Salvatore Gravano |
Gravano, is a liar, this much is known. However, I don't believe Gravano had anything to do with Kuklinski, and I also believe they never met. You have to ask yourself two questions. Why would Roy Demeo(whose crew had over 100 murders) would need such a hulking maniac to take out anyone? Why would Gravano(who had a minimum of 19 murders) need Kuklinski? They wouldn't. The mob dispatches it's own, with it's own. In the rare case that a hit has to go down and the family doesn't want to be attached, they go outside the family, to another family. It would be rare for the mob to go to outside help. Why pay an exorbitant sum of money, when your underlings could be told to do it? None of it makes sense.
Another question, of the six he confessed to, not a single one had ANY attachment to the mafia, underworld or anything else. Not a single murder he committed was a contract, but more for personal satisfaction, and personal gain. He sold drugs, robbed and murdered at will. The idea that he had his own little crew, and made a ton of money, is completely false. He made good money with his porn films, and drugs, but perhaps the biggest way he made money was deals he would make selling prescription drugs to pharmacists, collecting the cash and killing them in return without payment of goods. He was a schlub, and not anybody of circumstance.
So was is six or seven or 200 murders? I personally believe it was more than he acknowledged, and I wouldn't doubt he didn't kill for profit, but I don't believe it was with the Mafia. Most if not all but perhaps a handful were for pure joy and satisfaction. Think about it for one second, he could have unleashed hell on everyone when he went to trial, gotten himself a great deal, relocated, but he didn't. He in fact, admitted what he did, and never mentioned the MAFIA. Not once, until midway through his admission, he tried to play it that way and the detectives and F.B.I. didn't buy it for a second, and never did.
Why Philip Carlo allowed himself to be used is beyond me. Why he didn't publish facts is beyond me. It's his book of "stretches," and that's okay by me, the the truth is, Kuklinski, despite his stories is a SERIAL KILLER and not a mob hitman. Never was, never will be, no matter how distorted the reality gets. Kuklinski will go down in history as a disturbed, sociopath, nothing more, nothing less.
ICEMAN INTERVIEW
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